D Died early
B FGR with the following sources: (IGI?) P000214; 0531 IF Mary Ann. Same but 1390 Moses; 1121 Elizbeth; 0795 Dorothy. Approximate date is Abt 1785, and this person and date are not 100% sure. FHL 411,399 is pos. man.
M Has this been checked for marriage? FHL 434,934 (UV) has marriages and banns from 1754-1812. Marriages & banns for 1813-1845 are on FHL 434,935 (UV) and could be there, too. Have them look in Mesa FHL 6,901,258 (MESA), Computer printouts A-Z 1558-1877.NOTES/LOG:
-- IS IS POSSIBLE THAT HIS FATHER'S NAME WAS MOORE AND THAT'S WHY HE WENT BY BOTH OF THEM? HE WAS ILLEGITIMATE AND HIS FATHER WAS MOORE. THERE IS A MOORE MD IN AUCK. WHO COMES FROM CHESTER/CHISTON. LOOK FOR STH.
-- GOT A CALL 4-15-98 from Caroyn Moore, Price, UT, who is granddaughter of this person, Jul 1991. Aunt Marion who md to her dad's brother Jean said boband wms grandmother md Finkle and then Moore. Carolyn Vogrinec, Rt. 1, Box 120-B-2, Helper, UT 84526; phone: 435 637 2753.
-- Look up 1851 Census for Auckland St. Andrew 942.748; X22c; V. 82. This is an index. Perhaps can find this man and wife on it. Also look for othter Shaws on it.
-- THIS MAN LISTED AS MOSES MOOR (MD TO ELIZABETH SHAW) IN THEIR SON, THOMAS' CHRISTENING. STILL LISTED AS A SHOEMAKER. THOMAS JAN 6 1815 ILEG SON OF MARGARET MOOR OF AUCKLAND, SPINSTER.*********on FHL 434,934, Auckland par. rec. banns. It's possible that a Joseph Fincle? and Sarah Wake? put in banns for marriage during May 1807. It is hard to read this, but it is possible. TOO huge. In 1841: FHL 241,350, 241,352. In 1851: FHL 87,063, 87,064*****
-- DOES MOSES II HAVE CHR NAME OF 'MOORE' OR 'FINKLE'? IF MOORE, IT IS CLEAR THAT MOSES NAMED THE MALES 'MOORE' AND THE FEMALES 'FINKLE.' THAT WOULD PERHAPS LEND FURTHER CREDENCE TO THE ILLEGITIMTE FATHER OF MOSES I BEING NAMED MOORE. ALSO 'DOROTHY' GIVEN TO A DAUGHTER OF MOSES I, PROBABLY AFTER HIS MOTHER, & SINCE DOROTHY NOT A COMMON NAME (OR MAYBE SO IN N. ENGLAND?). -- --- FIND DEATHS OF ANY KIDS OF THESE PARENTS BY GOING TO AUCKLAND. ESPECIALLY CHECK FOR FIRST TWO DAUGHTERS. Apparenly, both Moses I & II went by both.
-- These are some stories and information given by the family: One sister (dutch) royal md. royalty in Eng? which line? coal miners. Jewish people rough time in England.
TWIN
B See spouse's notes. A James Shaw married Mary Blakey (both of this parish) 8 Aug 1814. It appears there was a James Shaw born to a Ralph Shaw, same as an Elizabeth Shaw a few years earlier. This could be our person! He was chr in Auckland St. Andrew par 10 Apr 1791. See Ralph's notes, too. Abt 1789 was the approximate date for her, though.
NOTES/LOG:
-- I had her married to a Moore. Just in case this is wrong, I am writing note. I believe it is wrong and I have put him on the wrong woman. Magraret Forester is the one he should belong to, I believe.
-- Found additional info: HANNAH SHAW 5TH DAU & illeg OF WM SHAW & MARGARET Pickering. lived Auckland. 29 Dec 1814. Other Pickering 7 nov & 17 nov 1814. Hannah shaw 7th dau of Wm. Shaw & Ann Walker, live Bishop Auckland, shoemaker. Sarah 13 Feb 1814 illegit dau 3rd in absens of Wm. Shaw, husband. 26 dec 1813 Eliz. Hunter 3rd dau of William Hunter and Eliz. Shaw, Bishop Auckland. Checked for more of her children back to 1813, nix. Maybe earlier. maybe other parish, where md.
-- 7 aPR 1816 jOHN 1ST SON illegit of Ann shaw aode Auckland, Chr.
-- Checked 1841 census: Sarah Shaw age 50 born in County p. 14 Auckland St. Andrew census FHL 241,352. In 1841 census there lived some Moore's next to Finkle's ,right next door. It looks like Christopher or Christ???/ Moore, Coal Miner, rest of family & he not born in county. He is probably 50. His wife, Ann, 50. He has kids Jopseh 20, Margaret 20, Sarah, 12, Christopher 15, William 4. Perhaps this is the Moore Margaret Forester married? He is born about 1791. She is a generation later. Perhaps big prob with this theory? See NOTE just written above. ANywa, there is a William Finkle 30 Coal miner, all his family born in county. His wife, Ester, 30, his child Thomas 10, John, 8, Joseph 4, William 7 mo. old.
West Auckland p. 6 Sarah SHaw 50 not born in County.
B On FHL 434,938 St. And par rec, Mary Ann is listed as 3rd daugheter of her parents, Moses Finkle & Elizabeth Shaw! This would be another dau. This is on FHL 434,937, births 1801-1812. Also on FHL 1,235,441:12.
B On FHL 434,938 St. And par rec, Mary Ann is listed as 3rd daugheter of her parents, Moses Finkle & Elizabeth Shaw! This would be another dau.
B On FHL 434,938 St. And par rec, Moses is listed as 2nd son of his parents, Moses Finkle & Elizabeth Shaw! Found child. IGI extracted.
B See father's notes. Also, IGI extracted P000214, 1813-1856, FHL 434,938.
B Possible match from IGI. Daughter would have been Chr 10 Jul 1785 in Auckland St. Andrew. See Elizabeth's notes! Not sure if his father Thomas is legit either, but prett sure. Extracted christening records P000212, 1720-1800 FHL 434,933, printout 1,235,448.
LOG/NOTES:
-- Possible family members: Hannah md George Armitage; James md Sarah Collin 20 jul 1861; Frances md Mark Richardson; Elizabeth md. William Thompson; Sarah md. William Wilson; William md. Hannah Mourhouse; Margaret md. George Bradley; Mary md. Robert Peacock. Also check other Shaw's in the parish.
IGI. FHL 91,111 extracted, chr.
C IGI 3.00. Extracted P000212, FHL 434,933, printout 1,235,448.
C IGI 3.00. Extracted P000212, FHL 434,933, printout 1,235,448.
C IGI 3.00. Extracted P000212, FHL 434,933, printout 1,235,448.
C IGI 3.00. Extracted P000212, FHL 434,933, printout 1,235,448.
C IGI 3.00. Extracted P000212, FHL 434,933, printout 1,235,448.
C IGI 3.00. Extracted P000212, FHL 434,933, printout 1,235,448.
C IGI 3.00. Extracted P000212, FHL 434,933, printout 1,235,448.
C IGI 3.00. Extracted P000212, FHL 434,933, printout 1,235,448.
C IGI 3.00. Extracted P000212, FHL 434,933, printout 1,235,448.
B This person is not for sure correct, but it does look like a good time.
Chr date for the child Moses Finkle is 18 Jul 1784 in Hurworth-On-Tees, Durham, England. B: 8 Oct 1963 SLAKE, E: 24 Mar 1964 SLAKE, extracted records FHL 90,785:3, Batch P000861, 1561-1799, printout FHL 411,399.LOG/NOTES:
-- SEE FIRST NOTE IN SON MOSES' NOTES. SHE MAY HAVE HAD AN ILLEGITIMATE CHILD WITH A MOORE. TRY TO FIND IT SOMEHOW. MOORE'S MAY HAVE COME FROM CHISTON/CHESTER.